Selfish? Please read, it isn't quite what you think it is...
Chapter 1
Selfish?
In a recent discussion concerning religion, I was accused of being selfish "for preferring the love of many people" instead of accepting the love of one god. This was aimed at my personal faith of Hellenion--the worship of Greek Deities. I wondered at that. Claiming the love of god, of Jesus, is the major focal point of Christian faith. Why not my own as well?
As the culture developed and changed, so too did Father Zeus' behaviour towards the people (please keep in mind that the image of a womanizer was a corrupted version, which scholars think may have been intended as a funny tale before the height of Greek thought, not a word-for-word account of how Zeus once behaved). Before the decline of Greek society, Zeus was a Saviour of the people, someone who cared deeply for His followers. I have witnessed this in Him myself, a wonderful Father-figure, a kind God, someone to trust and love in return. He is by no means a weak God--one that rules the Earth, controls the storms and the flashing lightning could never be so. But He still does love His people, His followers.
It was not just Zeus who changed toward the people as the people became more intelligent, more mature in their ways. Hades changed from a stern and fearful God to a softer version after His marriage to Persephone. Athena became even more of a Goddess who was reachable, touchable, someone to be feared for Her wisdom, but still a Goddess who could be a confidant, an aide, and was often depicted as a Saviour of mankind as well.
This love so popular in modern faith is something that many take for granted, though it is not necessary. The Deity/Deities being worshipped are ruling over the entire world --and all of the people, problems, nature, and Heaven/Underworld that goes with it. To be able to love and speak individually to each person is a feat that demonstrates ever more strongly just how amazing those worshipped are. It is not necessary, but it is there.
The young man I was talking to appears very strongly Christian. He did not seem to know much of my religious beliefs; just that there was a Mount Olympus that was shut off from all Mortals. Consider this a moment--Heaven is shut off from all Mortals. Only the faithful souls that are now immortal can enter Heaven. The only difference is that where the Gods hold counsel is symbolized by an actual Mountain, rather than an invisible world that either surrounds us or is above us, depending on the flavour of Christianity you hear it from. This same young man also seemed to think that life in the Underworld would somehow be disrupted or that I would have cause to 'worry' or 'fret' after death--something, he claimed, could only be avoided in the Christian heaven.
While none of the Gods or Goddesses of Greek belief have ever "conquered death" as Jesus is said to have done, they do not love less strongly, rule less justly, or care less deeply for it. They have proven Their caring and their mercy in other ways--including Their power over Death. Many a soul has been given immortality on earth, saved from death, and been risen from death. Nor is death itself final--the Gods are still with us, the Gods still love us, and they still speak to us even then.
Finally, I address the young man who spoke with me concerning these matters: I understand your viewpoint, and I do not attempt to sway you to my beliefs while abandoning your own. All I hope to gain through this is that perhaps you will understand my viewpoint, and that you can gain a little more insight into the particulars of this religion. Hopefully, then, should you meet another Hellenist, you will be on more even footing, and able to argue all the better for your case. I do not want to shut you up, or have you stop questioning different beliefs and belief systems. As the Greeks once did, the free exchange of thought and growth of intelligence is desirable, and you aid that. Your points are valuable, just as any other's, and cause me to think about my beliefs, and how to present them to others on the outside. Thank you for that.
As the culture developed and changed, so too did Father Zeus' behaviour towards the people (please keep in mind that the image of a womanizer was a corrupted version, which scholars think may have been intended as a funny tale before the height of Greek thought, not a word-for-word account of how Zeus once behaved). Before the decline of Greek society, Zeus was a Saviour of the people, someone who cared deeply for His followers. I have witnessed this in Him myself, a wonderful Father-figure, a kind God, someone to trust and love in return. He is by no means a weak God--one that rules the Earth, controls the storms and the flashing lightning could never be so. But He still does love His people, His followers.
It was not just Zeus who changed toward the people as the people became more intelligent, more mature in their ways. Hades changed from a stern and fearful God to a softer version after His marriage to Persephone. Athena became even more of a Goddess who was reachable, touchable, someone to be feared for Her wisdom, but still a Goddess who could be a confidant, an aide, and was often depicted as a Saviour of mankind as well.
This love so popular in modern faith is something that many take for granted, though it is not necessary. The Deity/Deities being worshipped are ruling over the entire world --and all of the people, problems, nature, and Heaven/Underworld that goes with it. To be able to love and speak individually to each person is a feat that demonstrates ever more strongly just how amazing those worshipped are. It is not necessary, but it is there.
The young man I was talking to appears very strongly Christian. He did not seem to know much of my religious beliefs; just that there was a Mount Olympus that was shut off from all Mortals. Consider this a moment--Heaven is shut off from all Mortals. Only the faithful souls that are now immortal can enter Heaven. The only difference is that where the Gods hold counsel is symbolized by an actual Mountain, rather than an invisible world that either surrounds us or is above us, depending on the flavour of Christianity you hear it from. This same young man also seemed to think that life in the Underworld would somehow be disrupted or that I would have cause to 'worry' or 'fret' after death--something, he claimed, could only be avoided in the Christian heaven.
While none of the Gods or Goddesses of Greek belief have ever "conquered death" as Jesus is said to have done, they do not love less strongly, rule less justly, or care less deeply for it. They have proven Their caring and their mercy in other ways--including Their power over Death. Many a soul has been given immortality on earth, saved from death, and been risen from death. Nor is death itself final--the Gods are still with us, the Gods still love us, and they still speak to us even then.
Finally, I address the young man who spoke with me concerning these matters: I understand your viewpoint, and I do not attempt to sway you to my beliefs while abandoning your own. All I hope to gain through this is that perhaps you will understand my viewpoint, and that you can gain a little more insight into the particulars of this religion. Hopefully, then, should you meet another Hellenist, you will be on more even footing, and able to argue all the better for your case. I do not want to shut you up, or have you stop questioning different beliefs and belief systems. As the Greeks once did, the free exchange of thought and growth of intelligence is desirable, and you aid that. Your points are valuable, just as any other's, and cause me to think about my beliefs, and how to present them to others on the outside. Thank you for that.



11 Comments
Nice essay, Rain!
It really is very good....I hope all that between yourself and the young man gets worked out well enough soon.
People seem to fight over religion too much, they should just let you believe what you want and leave it at that =/
I don't know how you can be bothered to write all that :P but you're right- you have the right to believe what you want.
? I bothered to write it all because it bothered me...And it was a better way to settle the argument than arguing in 300 character comments!
That's not being selfish, you're just believing in your religion
Thanks.
No problem!
I personally believe in God, but I don't think it's being selfish to believe in Zeus and other gods. I hope u learn to know God, though.
No, I will not learn to know the Christian god. I wish you could understand that.
K