Apples to Oranges....
Something that's been bothering me for a very long while.
Chapter 1
You and I
You scream in outrage when you hear about shark finning in China.
You rise up in protest when you hear about factory farming.
You get arrested in your protests against animal furs, and animal testing.
You argue for hours about how animals have a brain like ours, that they are as intelligent and as deserving of rights as we humans are.
You beg, plead, and demonstrate to raise awareness about global warming.
But when you hear about abortion, it's just a choice the mother can make.
But when you hear about abortion, it doesn't matter that Planned Parenthood targets minority groups. It doesn't matter that the founder called everyone but white people inferior, and that they should be exterminated.
But when you hear about abortion, you seem to forget that suidicide, depression, and infertility, along with serious health complications often come hand in hand with it.
But when you hear about abortion, the only thing you can say is 'better than an unloving home.' You can't be certain of that. Ever.
But when you hear about abortion, it's all good.
I'm not comparing apples to oranges. You are.
If an animal, even before or right at birth, has the same brainial capability of a human, why don't you fight for our children, murdered without a chance?
Aborted babies don't have any more chance or ability to fight for themselves than do those animals you try to protect.
You scream and cry when you hear about hunters.
But you don't bother with the hunters legally paid to hunt our own race.
Have you anything to say for yourself? At all?
If you have anything you'd like to see me add in the defense of our children, please comment away.
You rise up in protest when you hear about factory farming.
You get arrested in your protests against animal furs, and animal testing.
You argue for hours about how animals have a brain like ours, that they are as intelligent and as deserving of rights as we humans are.
You beg, plead, and demonstrate to raise awareness about global warming.
But when you hear about abortion, it's just a choice the mother can make.
But when you hear about abortion, it doesn't matter that Planned Parenthood targets minority groups. It doesn't matter that the founder called everyone but white people inferior, and that they should be exterminated.
But when you hear about abortion, you seem to forget that suidicide, depression, and infertility, along with serious health complications often come hand in hand with it.
But when you hear about abortion, the only thing you can say is 'better than an unloving home.' You can't be certain of that. Ever.
But when you hear about abortion, it's all good.
I'm not comparing apples to oranges. You are.
If an animal, even before or right at birth, has the same brainial capability of a human, why don't you fight for our children, murdered without a chance?
Aborted babies don't have any more chance or ability to fight for themselves than do those animals you try to protect.
You scream and cry when you hear about hunters.
But you don't bother with the hunters legally paid to hunt our own race.
Have you anything to say for yourself? At all?
If you have anything you'd like to see me add in the defense of our children, please comment away.



37 Comments
Wow....I agree....And ther ARE better things than abortian...I mean you DON'T HAVE TO KILL IT! wait for it to be born, and then give the baby up for adoption...It WILL go to a loving home then.
I agree 100%. It's nice and all to care about animals, but seriously, care about humans first. Especially babies. At least let them have a chance. You'd think that humans would want to protect other humans, but it seems like a lot of people care about anything but. Any sort of life is better than death. Just one small chance. I'm totally with you on this one.
Only too true. It's very sad :(
I completely agree. What I don't understand is: Why is it an awful thing for a mother to murder an infant, but no one gives a damn if the child is killed before they are born? Personally, I think doing either of these things is disgusting.
Every human should be given a chance at life, and to take that chance away...before they've ever had a change to see the sky, feel the wind and the rain on their skin...It's just not right.
I don't agree. Sometimes it's what's best for the kid, and something adoption can't solve. There are, for example, cases where the child is basically too handicapped to live. It would suffer for a few years, before dying. The child wouldn't be able to speak, breath, walk, eat, or even go to the toilet normally. Having it would be cruelty. And don't go protesting to me how it should have the right to live anyway. Because that's no life. And not only would the child suffer, the while family would.
And it's even worse than it sounds. THE CHILD WOULD BE IN PAIN IT'S WHOLE LIFE. It wouldn't be able to live with it's family. It would be in a special center for people like him/her. How do I know this? I speak from personal experience. No, I have not had an abortion, but I know someone that did it for this reason, however much it pained the person. She's depressed now. She didn't do it for herself. She did it for the child.
My aunt had an abortion. The baby would have died within a month. She most likely would have gone with it. After that, she started taking vitamins in hope that she'd be able to have a healthy baby... It worked, and now she has my cousins, Liam and Cailyn. She'll always be hurt, though, that she had to do that. My aunt is a very strong and good person. I'll never hold it against her. I don't know how I would have handled that situation. I would have an abortion. But that is one case to consider.
Crap... I typed that wrong.
*I would never have an abortion
Now I look stupid. -.-
That's one thing I forgot to put in here. I do believe that abortions should be done in cases where the mother cannot carry the child to term for health reasons. Though people like to think that tests before birth can tell if there are problems with the baby, many times they are wrong. I understand in cases where the child is definitely not going to make it, but I do know people who had the child thinking the baby was going to be deformed and have serious problems, but they had a perfectly
healthy baby. The tests were incorrect.
But like you both kindly pointed out, those are cases where abortions should be performed. Those should be the only instances when an abortion should be performed. Not just because we didn't expect it and don't think we want children around the house. Thanks both of you for giving your opinions and stories. I should have included this in the original post.
How can that POSSIBLY be best for a kid? You don't even know if it's an intelligent child!!! Maybe that one child that is being aborted today, is the one child that would make a HUGE difference in this world. Why is it against the law to murder, if doctors are allowed to murder? They are human beings too, even though they can't talk or walk or anything. Sure, animals are nice to have around, but what about people?
It's sad where this world is going with abortion.
Technically, when people abort, the baby isn't even a baby yet. It'd be the same thing as saying having your period, or using the pill, or a condom is murder. It's not. And there are accurate tests that can tell you about the child. You don't understand, girl. Please try again when you actually know people who did it.
Technically, that IS a baby!! Having a period is not even close to aborting a baby. The egg is fertilized, creating life when you kill it. The egg is otherwise unfertilized, when you're having a period. The pill and other methods of contraception only prevent this fertilization to occur.
Learn something before you open your mouth, or type, again, please.
Well while that is so true people argue about animal testing while it might kill the animal should we put a human on that table would that make it better(or what would,I dont see the big deal about animal testing yeah there smart and all and we should save them but beause humans are smart we shouldnt what the dumb animals or peeople should be tested on)
P.S I think you h=just started a huge trend or phase(congrats) : )
Fully agree!!! most people now refer animals as beast or maniacs and called them 'IT', I mean why would they do that, they are a living like us why should they be treated differently even though they have furs and large teeth, we breathe the same air, we protect our family, ...I just hate the thought of killing and murdering because its cruel and inhumane. Don't people ever thought animals are humans too...they deserved to be called 'Them' not refer them as a thing that is served for us to kill.
I think you missed the point. The point here was that people will get up in arms and demonstrate, even destroy property, trying to get people to give animals rights like humans, and have them equal to us in all ways. But they don't care at all about our unborn children, dying by hundreds and thousands for flippant reasons. As pointed out in the comments above, there are genuine cases where abortion is necessary and the best option. But abortion should never be treated as a 'choice' a good
thing, something encouraged, as it is today. Children are treated as inconvenient (sp?), things, wastes of time. Large families in America are looked down on. My mother has gotten a lot of nasty looks and comments because she has four children, rather than the typical 2. I mean come on!
And no, animals are not humans, and humans are not animals. We and they are different. You have no problem comparing an insect to an animal and calling them different, why not animals and humans?
Don't let anyone judgments and looks affect you even someone gave a nasty look to ur mother just because she has 4 children, i mean I know a lot of friends whose family has 4 children even 5...not to mention the country i'm living in, there is a mother who got 8 children with an unknown father which is just sad!
And to your question, lets just say i have terrible experiences in knowing how they treat animals here in my country and I always hope they would be treated equally.
The basic essence of my reply is that I agree. Wholly.
I honestly wish I was doing more about both.
Could you explain how you disagree (in your reply to the comment below)?
Well, I did, as you noticed. XD
I believe that animals and humans being of roughly equivalent value, neither animals nor humans should be killed or hurt unnecessarily. Necessity creates some different standards, but...
So neither is worse than the other, but they're both bad, and things should be done about both.
I'd rather murder animals than people.........people go ON AND ON AND ON about "OH! That Poor little kitty!" Or "Go vegetarian and help animals!!" and dumb stuff like that. Don't get me wrong, animal abuse isn't right. But CHILD ABUSE, ABORTION, AND HUMAN MURDER IS WORSE!!!
THUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE!
Immensely disagree.
So, Dread kind og hte flies, you'd rather have humans murdered instead of animals be killed for a real purpose? How strange............
Did you know that's not what I said?
I said they're EQUALLY bad. I'd rather have neither.
Well that's good enough, but, correction. Up above my comment where I said that you'd rather have humans killed than animals, you commented saying "Immensely disagree."
How do you explain that? The ghost in the house or something?
Because the whole idea that humans are inherently above animals is stupid. It annoys me as such.
Humans are above animals, however you wish to phrase it. My long-beaten argument stands--you don't see any issue in the difference between birds and animals, or insects and animals, why not humans and animals? Just because we domesticized certain of the animal kind does not make them on a level with us. Neither BunnyLover or myself condone, encourage, or enjoy the act or thought of animal abuse in any way, but humans come first.
Except the actual testing of many, many, animal species shows that the major difference between people and animals is mostly one of scale. Certain animal species are actually as intelligent as human toddlers, in fact. Certain animal species are capable of communicating with humans given some time to learn a shared language. And this isn't just great apes I'm talking about--PIGEONS have been able to do much of this. So have parrots. Bees, even, are quite capable of at the very least forming new..
...associations, meaning they're able to learn. I might also add that all these test better than a human fetus. Possibly even a human baby in some cases.
Plus, I do see issues in the "difference between birds and animals". And the "difference between insects and animals".
Why the heck do you see a problem with differentiating between species?!?!
And the point of that is that human beings can progress beyond the human toddler stage, while not even the smartest ape can get beyond very simplistic anything. Also, why would these test better than a human fetus? What is the point of testing comparisons between the two? One is in the first stages of life, the others near, if not already adults. Not a good comparison, unless you want to show just how simple they are.
Actually, not all humans can. I'm pretty sure we can both think of some groups.
Furthermore, Apes and the like actually test BETTER than human toddlers. They can actually hit the level of relatively dull human adults.
But ultimately, this is all completely irrelevant. For two reasons: Whatever human toddlers COULD BE, they aren't yet. I am pro-life, I am obviously against child abuse. That is actually part of why I'm for animal rights.
And the second, discriminating against something...