I've Lost Faith In Humanity
Addie did something of this sort, and I thought I would take her brilliant idea And do it as well. These are argument I got off of fanpop as to why Twilight is better than Harry Potter. Bold is my commentary.
DISCLAIMER: Twilight fans, read at your own risk.
2- the actors/actresses who film the movie are talented ...Honey, you realize you're only making us crack up, right? Twilight has Kristen Stewart in it.
3- bella is a role model (she teaches people to hold on to their friendships and stuff and keep their secrets) So does Harry. And Ron teaches loyalty, Hermione that it's okay to be a know-it-all, Luna to be yourself, Ginny to be independent, need I go on...?
4-it has a PLOT!! It does...?
5-the scenes in the movies are exciting "Say it. Out loud. Say it." "Vampire." "Well, no shít, Sherlock." Tremendously exciting.
6- the effects are amazing Yeah. Sparkles. Woot woot.
7-a story about a vampire,werewolf, and mortal beats a swinging wand boy and his enemy the beast ...Some people have absolutely no taste.
8- the actors and actresses are attached to their character and love them Rob Pattinson once said that he liked Cedric more than Edward. And I can really tell that Kristen Stewart just gets so emotional and worked up over Bella. Spectacular.
9-the characters are not all good or all evil And they are in Harry Potter? Harry has a piece of Voldemort in him. Hello?
10-the evil people are villians for a reason like the newborn army in eclipse who almost killed the whole city of seattle or the volturi (they are not evil evil they have some good in them) Yeah. And Voldemort hates Muggles because of his father. That sounds like a reason to me.
11-the characters in twilight are nice and have a great personality and they are hot and cool too (they are lovable for that) Wizard angst! "My parents are dead, my life sucks, I can't hold down a girlfriend, and I'm surrounded by fvcking goblins and shít!" Do you really want a bland, boring character who's nice inside and out? Give 'em some layers! Like Snape!
12-the cover of the books are drawn beautifully! It's a picture of someone holding an apple. How stupid are you?
13-the posters of the movie looks verrrry cool Do you wanna throw in another r?
14- creative and great ideas of the vampire form Yeah, sparkles. Very creative.
15- you can make your own stories out of the chapters of twilight (you can make stories out of harry potter too but twilight turns out better than harry potter) You have to start out with something good to make something good.
16- the phrase twi-hard is cool I thought it was twi-tard.
17-the mashup name renesmee is so creative Stephanie Meyer: "Aw, shít, I have to name Bella's stupid child... Let's see... Renee and Esme... I'll just shove them together and hope my dozens of fans mistake it for a stroke of literary genius.
18- Meyer made the werewolves and vampire unite even though they are enemies to each other Or she could've made the werewolves kill the vampires. You know, to make the story better.
19-the book is an international bestseller and an award winning book too (chosen by book critiques) And Harry Potter isn't?
20-there are lessons you can learn from twilight (the thing u can learn from harry potter is how to do a spell on your friend so he can help u) And in Twilight, you can learn that chasing after two guys and kissing your best friend when you have a boyfriend is what life is all about.
21-the emotions are deep in twilight and is a wide imaginative world (unlike wand boy) Kristen Stewart has some very deep emotions. And... uh... J.K. Rowling sorta made up an entire world, with currency and everything. Meyer set it in some town in Washington.
22- she replaces small simple words to long big words for people to be more educated not use simple words everyone can understand Probably because she knew that whoever read her books would have a lower I.Q.
23-twilight has a theme of a mystical and imaginative world And Harry Potter is just as bland as cardboard, right? Hippogriffs, dragons, unicorns, Death Eaters...? Totally lame.
24- twilight is read by a massive audience As is Harry Potter.
25-the fight scenes are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo amazing and you feel the fight by someway OhEmGee IKR?! So so sooooooooo incredible! Excuse me while I slam my face in the waffle iron in light of your stupidity.
26-the twilight quotes are really nice written and you feel the creativity in them "Hey, I'm Bella! I'm in love with a vampire and and werewolf, like, LOL! They're such major fùcking hotties, I don't know which one to pick! I know! I'll make out with them both LOL."
27-Meyer left clues for you to know the identity of each and every character Rowling left an entire background for nearly every character. Once again, Severus Snape.
Now for another stupid idiot.
1. The main character is much much easier to relate to. Because Twilight fans are lovesick teenage girls? Then yes.
2. they are written so anyone can read and understand without the use of your dictionary Yeah, if a toddler can understand it, I have a feeling you might want to read something a bit more difficult.
3. Twilight goes more in depth with the emotions. You can feel Bella's pain when Edward leaves her. You can feel her confusion between Edward and Jacob. You can feel her love for Renesmee You know, J.K. Rowling really should go more in depth. The last book was only 784 pages.
4. Because unlike Harry no one thoughts are actually that deep and intellectual It's written in third person POV. Maybe Bella's just stupid.
5. Alice is a fun, bubbly character. Not all of them are dull. Sure. One character out of about twenty. Congrats.
6. Who says wanting a bf is a crime? I dont think so. Some people do better with a boy than friends. that person is bella. It isn't. It just isn't the most important thing in life.
7. Also, this is FANTASY! It doesn't have to be "well, the characters are more real." Fantasy books aren't Meant to be real! Books w/ aleins are fantasy. Aleins (probably) aren't real! It's spelt aliens. And congratulations, you know what a fantasy book is!
8. Rosalie and Emmett. They are the most realistic of all the Cullens. Yes, of the vegetarian vampires, the Barbie and bodybuilder are definitely the most realistic.
9. twilight was romantic Good job. Kudos to you for figuring that out.
10. it was a book/movie tht lead its readers/watchers deeper into it As was Harry Potter.
11. there is a happy ending. And there was one in Harry Potter as well.
12. there is a battle between good and evil Harry Potter, again.
13. sparklepyres or vampires, call them how you like - they have more nobility, more education, they are more fun, have more attractiveness than lots and lots of ordinary people. Wizards are interesting too but they don't have immortality on their side, nor the eternal beauty or that charming sweet smell ;) Nicholas Flamel had immortality. But he's probably a ghost now, and we all know that those don't last long at all. But you're probably right. Beauty is the most important thing in life, as is smelling like a fruitcake.
14. it is important to anticipate te ending of a story - this is everyones mind exercise - but the Twilight series is not just "about a sappy love story that could have reached its happy ending in 4 seconds". If the reader gets cought up in the events of the story, the success of that story is sure. The complexity of the Twilight characters is obvious, and furthermore one can see the process of evolution that they go through in the 4 books. Please. You tell me you didn't know that Bella would end up a vampire and with Edward.
15. she has a normal life, she goes to school and afterwords she hangs out with her boyfriend. You were just going on about how this was a fantasy book. It just sounds extremely boring now.
16. you know her emotions and you realise why she does things. you can feel the love true the screen when you watch it. I don't feel any emotions accept feer when I watch HP but thats my view on it. That's because Twilight is a very simple book. And if you saw any emotion on Kristen Stewart's face, you were probably hallucinating. And if all you felt was fear in Harry Potter, you're kind of wimpy.
17. The book puts you in an average place: Forks, Washington. It's a rather normal place with normal people. Therefore, people can relate easier because they don't have to get past the "immaginative"(for lack of a better word) setting that is Harry Potter(big fan though). Normal?! Normal is boring! Average?! Average is boring?! If I wanted normality, I would quit reading Harry Potter and return to my boring life! What's wrong with imagination? Haven't you ever watched Spongebob?
18. Bella has separated parents. I personally don't, but I know that some people's parents might have this relationship. People who know about the relationship can relate to Bella's family problems easier. Harry's parents are dead. Maybe orphans can relate to him.
19. Bella goes to a regular high school, has regular subjects, and regular "friends" without magic powers. People can relate to that easily because, siriusly people, if we didn't get our Hogwarts letters already we're not gonna. At my high school, we don't study Charms or Tranfiguration but Math and Science. Bella's freinds can be stated as the stereotypes in high schools. I haven't read the series since the first time, which was around a year and a half ago, so I can't go in depth about this. I don't know what sort of school you go to, stupid Muggle. I stay in Defense Against the Dark Arts all day. Screw Algebra.
20. Sparked the want to read in many teenage minds that had never really liked reading before. If you don't like reading, suck it up. You have to do a lot of that to get through school.
21. It's a great fantasy series, like our Harry Potter, that can make you forget the perils of real life, by finding how others deal with more exaggerated problems. Same as Harry Potter, Sherlock.
22. For those who say Twilight has but one emotion, love, I argue that and say it also has pain. Bella doesn't want to have to choose between Edward and Jacob but she has to, and it kills her everday that she hurt Jacob. Wait... Twilight was supposed to have emotions?!
23. Also, it's not healthy to be that depressed when someone leaves you, but he was get whole world. I know that's not healthy either, but he was her first love. Everyone goes a little crazy thier first time. Ron was Hermione's first love. When he left, she kept looking for Horcruxes. Call Hermione crazy for not spiraling into a deep pit of depression.
24. We say that Twilight is better because it has that Romeo and Juliet aspect. Bella and Edward are also star-crossed lovers and nothing can keep them apart. A good love story can always find it's was into the hearts and minds if people. Have any of you read Wuthering Heights? Another good example of star-crossed lovers. (and it was a superb book). True. I love Romeo and Juliet. That's because it was a good love story. Not the same, crappy wannabe that I find Twilight to be.
25. I would also like to add that it is perhaps a good thing that Stephenie Meyer didn't kill off any important characters. I've seen a lot of grief around the web when our favourite characters died in the Harry Potter series (Requiescant in pace Dumbledore, Severus Snape, Fred Weasley, Tonks, all four Marauders and the hundreds of good witches and wizards in Europe...). So Twilight is perhaps better in the aspect that none of the fans favourite characters died... Yes, but is it realistic that all the Cullen's came out of the... Er... I guess you could call it a "Battle" (No one really fought...) alive? Besides, Sirius and Dumbledore died for a reason, to further the plot and Harry's emotional development, as did Lily, James, and Snape. Fred, Lupin, and Tonks were just to show the ruthlessness of Voldemort.
26. Those vamps' powers from all over the world were kind of cool. I especially like Zafrina's. And being able to cast spells isn't cool?
27. Its creative! Of course, there are cliche's but beyond the obvious, many parts are creative Yeah, I really like the way she didn't stick to the traditional view of vampires and managed to make them wimpier.
32. he movie may not be faithful to the book but at least the cast are good Good Lord, what did you just say?
34. Stephenie Meyer did her research and found a place like Forks so the vampires could be outside. JK just made one up. Yes, Rowling did absolutely no research to discover hippogriffs, make up her own interpretation of werewolves, and to discover long forgotten lore of several cultures. Excuse me, Meyer, I didn't realize it was so difficult to Google "rainiest place in America."
35. It's vampires living in a normal world, not vampires living in a vampire world undercover. What the hell does this have to do with anything?
36. The sparkles are so unique and creative. They're not stupid. Whatever you say.
37. They are immortal and they do have to survive on blood. I do agree that they aren't exactly like traditional vampires, but they still have some of the main traits. Let's see, they really can go out in the sun, and turn into a disco ball when they do, they don't have fangs, they don't sleep in coffins (or at all), they eat animals, they can't turn into bats... I think she nailed most of the main traits.
38. twilight has passion,mystery,sadness As does Harry Potter
39. its interesting Excuse me while I go hack my hand off with a blunt ax.
40. its won mtv movie awards for the best movie of the year when new moon came out and the halfblood prince it was twilight who won the best movie of the year. Because a bunch of teenage, lovesick girl watch MTV.
41. besides the characters being hot, when you read the books you instantly fall inlove with the character edward and the book has no pictures edwards personality in the books and movies is just charming and jacob hes so sweet. That's what they want you think.
42. twilight is also a little more realistic (even though its still fake) it doesnt say vampires die in the sunlight and they dont sleep in coffins in twilight its a normal person life goin two skool and everyting but in harry potter its the story we here over and over posions wands brooms and witches i like hp but twilight is better and it will always be my favorite I died a little reading that.
43. Harry Potter only depends in his wand and Edward Cullen can read his mind to know how and when and even how harry'll attack. But he doesn't have a wand to protect himself.
44. And alice can know(Harry's only human after all,weak) the future True, Professor Trelawney and Divination is a bit wacko.
45. Some could say Twilight is a better book because it has more romance (DISCLAIMER: I am definetly not saying that HP doesn’t have romance- just less). Romance apparently appeals more to teens. Not all.
46. Maybe Twi-fans could relate more to the feeling of indecision? Or the feeling of having to choose between two loved ones? I’m not too sure if that happens in HP (maybe when Hermione had to choose between Ron and Harry in DH? But, that was smaller scale). Hermione was never in love with Harry, stupid. You sound very uncertain on this one.
47. Well, I have to admit it… Meyer does describe Bella’s feelings pretty well. Jo is a WAY better describer on most parts… but on feelings, I personally believe that Meyer does it almost on Jo’s level. I'm going to shoot myself now.
“Just because you like something, and someone doesn't, that DOES NOT make them stupider, dumber or beneath you. “ –A nice quote to toss in the mix No it most certainly does not. Why? Oh, and stupider isn't a word. It's more stupid, or less smart.
48. Twilight is inspirational, just look at how many great fan fics there are! Yeah, they're all super. I've read several.
49. Twilight was probably more difficult to write because of the location and surroundings of the main characters. Again, Rowling created a WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD.
In Harry Potter, sure these people are different, but they spent most of the story among their own kind. They didn't really have to hide who they are . In Twilight, they had to hide who they were from everyone except from theirselves. (excluding from when Bella found out and their interactions with the werewolves) Muggleborns had to disguise what hey were to escape the Ministry.
50. The Twilight books show a higher sense of maturity. (larger words, more adult themes. And by adult, I don't mean séxual) Sure, giving up an education, life as you know it, money, family, and friends to try to defeat evil doesn't show any maturity. Bad Harry!
You can't really say that is because Harry Potter is more kid friendly because HP has a lot more death and adults killing children... Voldemort trying to kill a baby... And there's séxual themes in Breaking Dawn.
51. Stephenie Meyer tried something new and risky. She wasn't afraid to venture away from the path most vampire novelists take. She did something different from what most people consider a "real vampire" to be. It wasn't a good risky to take.
(It's not against any rule to change what a vampire is because first of all, it's a fiction. Second of all, vampires are not real. You can do whatever you want with them, as long as you stay with the main theme, as Meyer did) Main theme...? Other than the immortal part, they're completely different.
52. Stephenie's vampires are original. How did Rowling's wizards differ from original wizards? She just invented a couple more spells, filled in a few blanks, etc., but the basic wizard and HP wizards are the same. She created another world, for the last time. Meyer's book was set in some small town in the north west. Sounds like Meyer filled in less blanks than Rowling.
53. Twilight shows a real approuch to situations. Not everyone goes out and persuits someone and fights them in revenge, which is seen in Harry Potter all the time. And not everyone risks their life to save the boyfriend who dumped them
54. Real people do not have courage like harry and his trio. (another situation) In twilight, all the characters , as much of their pride were realistic in the fact that they were frightened from their enemie. Like for not one second was Harry ever scared of Voldemort and was strong and brave. Harry Pottter always wins his battles. Victory is sooo cliche, Twilight reconcises defeat(in small doeses), which is always good to read. As I recall, Edward wins a lot too, which is fairly astonishing. And Harry was terrified of Voldemort, for the record. Everyone was.
55. There is a love triangle in Eclispe between Bella, Edward, and Jacob. Love triangles can happen in real life. Good job, you learned something!
56. Plot line of the first book:
Exposition: Edward reveals himself as a vampire
Rising action: James decides to hunt Bella
Climax: Bella goes to meet James and is captured.
Falling Action: Cullens show up and save the day.
Resolution: Bella is safe (as far as they know at this point) Edward denies her request to make her into a vampire. Demonstrating what you learned in school today, aren't you?
57. And there's more to the story than Bella falling in love with a vampire when referring to the whole series. There's the threats it puts on her life and all everyone needs to go through to get her out of it. There's the sacrifice she makes for love. The whole Jacob thing.. I recognize there's more to Twilight than Bella falling in love with Edward. She also falls in love with Jacob.
58. Bella and Edward - The Average Girl Gets the Hot Guy
Bella Swan, the main character, (played by Kristen Stewart) drives an ugly truck and doesn’t dress with any style. She loves to read and is an introvert, not a cheerleader. Her friends are few and her home life is less than stellar. However, it is she who Edward Cullen (played by Robert Pattinson) is attracted to. Not cliche at all. Dork gets the guy. Never been done before.
59. Edward loves Bella to the exclusion of all else. He protects her, worries about her and takes care of her. He is devoted to her and considers her needs far above his own. In Twilight, Edward tells Bella, “You are my life.” In New Moon (the second book in the series) he says, “You will always be the most beautiful thing in my world.” And in Eclipse (the third book) Edward declares, “You are my first priority.” Ron: "He needs to sort out his priorities."
60. The fact that Edward is sincere in what he says to Bella makes the Twilight series especially gratifying to readers. These books are not merely fantasies, but love stories. Girls are swept off their feet by Edward’s maturity and thoughtfulness. They appreciate his compassionate nature and loving concern for Bella. No, they just like the fact that he's hot.
61. Bella is a True Friend
Although many people in the community of Forks, Washington find Edward scary and dangerous, Bella only sees the good in him. If by which you mean his looks. She is initially attracted to them. She sticks by him even after learning the secret he harbors; Edward is a vampire. In the same way, she is also fiercely loyal to Jacob (her best friend). Upon discovering that Jacob is a werewolf, Bella is unphased. She asserts that their friendship will prevail. Because she's fairly desperate.
62. Bella is the type of friend that girls want. She is accepting and trustworthy. Her values are not skewed by society. She remains faithful, reliable and devoted to her friends. She was great to Jessica and Angela when she blows them off numerous times.
63. Edward is a Gentleman
Edward is Bella’s knight in shining armor. He treats Bella with respect in all situations. He refuses to have séx outside of marriage because he wants everything to be perfect when it comes to her. He drives when they go out, takes care of her every need and is polite and courteous to her father. He even holds her and sings to her. That's nice and not corny at all. When I get a boyfriend, I want someone who plays video games with me and watches Disney movies. I could care less about singing to me.
64. Edward is so popular because girls love the way he treats Bella. Girls want to be treated like a lady, they want the guy to take charge, make plans for dates and be respectful. So what makes Edward so appealing? He isn’t pushy or boorish, but classy and sophisticated. He is smart and well read, mannered and considerate. Edward truly loves Bella and wants whatever is best for her. I'm not sure why...
65. The slight attempts to add romance to Harry Potter weren't that great. Maybe because Harry Potter isn't a romance novel. And I'm sure there are more Romione or Snily shippers than Bella/Edward or Bella/Jacob.
66. Twilight teaches us that people aren't ugly. I dunno, I thought Bella thought that she was ugly.
67. it was a love story... And people can relate to love more than magic, which is a totally nonexistent thing Stupid Muggle.
68. The fact that Bella got sad doesn't make her weak. She wasn't sad. She was crushed, depressed, etc. Hell, she hardly spoke for, what, six months?!
69. -The villians are much more realistic. They're both fictional creatures, vampires and wizards.
70. I always considered the antagonist in Twilight to be the actual natural vampire instincts, not the instinctual vampires. Very nice.
The Cullens battled with their instincs constantly. The battled against vampires acting on those instincts. Bella battles against Renesmee's instincts for a bit. There was Edward's natural hatred for Jacob. Is hatred natural...?
71. Teenagers are capable of being in love, as displayed in Harry Potter. Nice catch there, Ace.
72. I believe everyone is good, in the sense that no physical character is evil. Tell that to Voldemort and Bellatrix.
From what I've observed, the biggest struggles people encounter have little to do with other people as individuals.
The vampiric instincts is the evil. Resistance is the good. The vampires that resist are the ones who can be trusted, and the ones who don't, can't. If you say so.
I'm done. Sorry if you're a Twilight fan, I truly am.